Spinning Plates: The Full Guide to Getting Girls

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Life is GOOOOOOD!

Just got to Berlin after a week in Stockholm, and I have a week of amazing night life ahead of me, and my first weekend off in a while.

I’ve officially gone out 21 nights in a row, but it’s more like 30 of the past 32, and I’ve been consciously noticing new things every night out.

Also I’ve gotten great news from Papa and Tyler about the Brad Branson Brand.

I’m basically going to be completely rewriting the entire RSD newsletter, literally between 300-400 articles over the next year.

I plan on organizing it so that each article sequentially builds off the previous one in a way to give a full curriculum and paradigm of game.

It’s going to be fucking sick, I’m super stoked, and pretty much under contract to do it, so it’s not like other projects I’ve hinted at but never came to fruition, this baby is already in the works.

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Otherwise, if you are already a subscriber but have been bored by the old school articles on the newsletter right now, you better get ready to start reading again, because I’m literally throwing blood, sweat, and my entire bootcamp curriculum into these articles!

Fuck yeah.

Anyway, today I want to get back to some on point material, and bring up something that I noticed while in Oslo a few weeks back.

After years of fighting through the leading sticking point, I think I’ve finally ironed out the last little kinks. There is a new way I look at every interaction.

 

The Approach

The first night of every bootcamp revolves around the approach.

No matter what skill level or experience the guy has, I truly believe that the better you can get at starting the interaction, the more effective the entire conversation will be.

It’s all about setting the initial context RIGHT AWAY.

The frame that you are an attractive, high value dude, who takes what he wants.

The best way to accomplish this is to GO IN HARD! And I teach this through a few simple tips that are easy to implement.

1. Eye contact

2. Vocal Projection

3. Commanding Tone of Voice

That’s it. That’s all I teach. Heh, and a lot of other random tid bits that can really only be elucidated in person.

I truly believe, if you can master the skill of approaching proficiently, with 100% volition, good tonality, good eye contact, and a commanding voice, that about 80% of your interactions will open well.

Attraction is like a switch.

Go in strong.

Attraction is created.

 

Spinning Plates

Now onto the new way I view an interaction.

Basically the initial approach is like taking a plate, and getting it to spin.

If you open strong enough, that plate starts spinning quick, and you don’t have to worry about much for a while.

But, as the plate slows down, or if you don’t approach strong enough from the very beginning, the plate starts to falter, and you have to take action to get it spinning fast again.

If you wait too long, the plate falls. And usually after a certain point, even if the plate is awkwardly balanced and spinning, no matter how much work you put into trying to get it to spin on point again, it’s gonna fall.

How does this relate to an interaction with a girl?

Open strong, and get the plate spinning.

At some point, you can feel the interaction about to dip.

If you don’t make a move real quick, the interaction is going to start falling apart.

It’s similar to measuring the girls “buying temperature.” Is she hot and happy, or is the interaction starting to cool off?

As you get more experience, you can feel out how the interaction is going, and you can tell when it is slowly starting to stagnate, there is too much of a static feel to it.

So what do you do?

MOVE HER!

“Let’s go to the bar!”

“Let’s go meet my friends!”

“Let’s go chill outside where it is quieter!”

“Let’s go dance!”

“Let’s go meet YOUR friends!”

Whatever you need as a reason, you need to move her as soon as possible.

The problem is that if you wait too long, the interaction is like a plate that is totally off balance. Her buying temperature is too low, and if you try to make the move, she won’t want to do it because she is already starting to get bored.

You have to do it on a high note. Preempt the buying temperature drop and move her whenever the thought pops into your head.

This is basically the pattern I use for the whole interaction.

Keep the plate spinning, i.e. keep the high value, self amused frame running strong, and as you start to see a dip in the road… MOVE HER.

Over and over again.

Later on, this same “move her mentality” can be applied to any form of escalation. Physicality, kissing, pulling, closing…

 

Dancing Monkey

Now as I write this, it almost sounds like I’m heralding back to the old days of being the entertainer man, or dancing monkey frame.

This isn’t about getting a reaction out of her, I think it is more for myself, or yourself, to still feel like the man in the interaction.

One, you can never lead too much. So if I can create some artificial rule to move the girl around more, then GREAT!

Two, social dynamics is a self fulfilling prophecy. If you go in hard, the interaction will open well, but as it starts to stale out, instead of just going into your head and wondering what the next step is…

MOVE HER!

As you lead, it conveys all the cool high value qualities that build attraction, and by moving to a different area of the club, it naturally gives the interaction a new flair.

It keeps you in a good headspace, keeps the two of you in the right roles, and makes the interaction fun yet domimant.

And it’s under your control.  You are not waiting for signals from the girl to move, you do it BEFORE you start seeing bad signals.

Try it out and get back at me!

 



39 Comments

Nemo

Good stuff. It is basically the quintessence of what I took away from my bootcamp with Brad, open hard and lead. Focusing on implementing these two things greatly improved my results since then. It sounds very simple but it really took my game to the next level.

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    Brad Branson

    Simple but not easy. It’s so counter-intuitive that the less you do, the better.

    Glad it’s working for ya!

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Adam

Hahah the spinning plate analogy is spot on. The thing is, some guys will take it too far once the plate starts to wobble by overcompensating and -trying- to save it from falling; girls can pick up on that sh^t right away.

Ukraine>Scandinavia>Germany.. it better be a spiral path into Poland ;P

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    Brad Branson

    Exactly! Sorry, no Poland on this trip! I have been there before though and LOVED Krakow and Warsaw.

    Maybe next Euro Tour!

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Sindbad

Exactly what I learned on bc. Simple yet effective. Have a great visit :)

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    Brad Branson

    Jeyah! Hit up Watergate last night. CRAZY!

    Gotta love Berlin. :)

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      Sindbad

      I guess you’re rolling with Pilgrim and Matt? If so tell them I said hi.

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Michael Cherry

Strong leading and decision making is something I’ve incorporated a lot more of late and noticed the significant difference it makes. It’s super effective, yet tiring.. always gotta be 1 step ahead.

Girls want to be lead, girls want you to take control… you will be rewarded for doing so. – Although this is effective, it’s so frustrating – constantly being the mover.

It’s so refreshing to have a girl who is equipped with the ability to make a basic decision and take the lead once in a while. – unfortunately I always catch myself becoming complacent in this.. we all know where that ends up.

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    Brad Branson

    Yep, the thing is at first leading seems like a lot of work, but it is actually EASIER than trying to stand there and just make shit happen.

    Once you fully come into being a leader, it will be autopilot.

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Gorilla

Go In Hard! Interesting.
I’ll report with results soon.
I’ve read the CCM but did not apply the info.
It’s time.
Am on a 30 day challenge.
Let’s see where this leads.
Eye contact, Vocal Projection and CCM.
Done.
Word, brah. Word.

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    Brad Branson

    30 day challenge. Hell yeah

    Hit. It. HARD!!!

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Polarize

I notice sometimes people will get offended when I raise my voice. I think I might be projecting my voice in a condescending manner. Not entirely sure. I’m sure you have more of an understanding on this.

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    Brad Branson

    Yeah, there is a difference between being antagonistic, and authoritative. Is this during normal interaction, or in the night club?

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      Polarize

      Sometimes at a bar where it’s not too loud. Sometimes at a regular grocery store. Is it necessary to raise my voice when I’m in a more chilled out low energy setting? What about when it’s in a medium energy level setting where it’s not too loud but it’s not too low either?

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VD

Yeah, I posted something like this back in April when I highlighted a lot the importance of moving her right away. Personally I feel that this is crucial when it comes to make the actual pull at the end to feel more organic and natural. This was very key for me to learn. Solid post.

Also something you didn’t mention in the approach part of the article, that I think is important because it had help me a lot, it’s the whole getting really close really fast front facing her. It is great because the closer and the faster you get to her, makes the whole approach a lot smoother for some reason.

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    Brad Branson

    Yep, on bootcamp I explain the eye contact aspect as also including opening fully facing her.

    No over the shoulder BS, go straight in, plow through any obstacles and make yourself vulnerable.

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andoni

Thanks man lets see what happens, havent tried the breaking rapport tonality so it will be a interesting tonality………………

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    andoni

    I mean night haha the next night I go out hahah

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      Brad Branson

      Oh yeah, you gotta use it. Having good tonality is very important.

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uugan

So i if i understand correctly,

Open -> transition -> dhv/humor/c&f -> close/pull?

i just took matador/discovery seminar, they mentioned u live in chicago, do u still?

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    Brad Branson

    I’m from the Chicago area originally, and do about 1 bootcamp a month there.

    I usually bounce between Chi and NYC.

    As for the gameplan, I would say you convey value by opening strong, and then lead and build compliance towards the pull.

    A minor tweak, make sense?

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zappa

cool stuff and exactly what i experienced in the last weeks.

i found that the more i open hard and the more i just lead the less i have to “game” the girl. this stuff is super interesting since i was (still am oftentimes) the entertainer guy prone to straight overgaming and girls running away after a few minutes (if not seconds). this simple shift changed a lot for me. nice to know i’m on the right track.

are u in berlin because of the fashion week? ;)

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    Brad Branson

    No, it was a pleasant surprise to find out that it is Berlin Fashion Week.

    Let’s just say I was not let down so far! :) Party’s have been sick

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knudo

I enjoyed Jeffy´s newsletter.
How is that working?
Does he quit? Or is it a different newsletter series we´re talking about here?

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Jonas

Yea, Jeff’s newsletters were awesome. I enjoy reading your blog so I’m sure the new series of newsletters will be just as good…Cheers

-Great post by the way.

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TheKing

“One, you can never lead too much.”
I don’t see in this way, can you explain to me?
thanks for the value (;

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Apoorv

I am not sure about doing “Let’s go meet YOUR friends!” while moving her. Because I want to be the party & suck her into my party. I don’t want to join her friends party. But its also important to meet her friends before I pull her to my house. So this can either be done at the approach or just before pulling her home. But if I do it before pulling her home her friends will give some resistance. I need to play with this & find a sweet spot.

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Rodrigo

Hey Brah! When will you be rewriting the rsd’s newsletters? Do you already have a date or something?

Come to Brazil! haha

best regards man.

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Bill Rey

Wow, brad had a weekend off. So what do you do on a night without having to run BC’s. Did you still hit it up?

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Seth

Awesome about the RSD newsletter. Jeffy’s old ones were very entertaining and good for their time, but the newsletter has been glaringly in need of an update for years.

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Patrick

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    Brad Branson

    Yep, this is what I use…

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Kory

Hey Brad : I sometimes get shut down on the moving. I think with some adjustments I’ll have it fixed, but whats plan B when the move gets shut down, maybe its something like she just sat down in a good spot, or whatever-lame-reason.

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Vineet Kashyap

I learn this one (Go strong ) Straight forward :D

Thanks men !

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right

Hey brad just wondering when you go hard, how do you approach if lets say the chick has her back towards you. what is the best way to go hard in that situation.

thanks man.

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Luke

Holy shit. First off I don’t see why the spinning plates method isn’t taught by every instructor. It gives the perfect frame to be dominant in your own style. I came here from your be the life of the party article which hit hard since I began being sooooooo aloof that sometimes shit would not even go down and this gives the perfect way to measure your micro calibrations. Tell me if I understood this wrong though, on top of having wooooooo and intent, this adds a third factor where you let the girl coast on her high bt after you’ve spiked it hard. Like you intentionally just kind of talk nonsense ie. Chill and vomit ( I think that’s what you cal it?). Then when you sense you need to MOVE that’s when you come back in and change venues, or grab and make out or pick her up spin or what ever to spike that bt again?

secnd part of my post is just back ground to the uestion if you have time to read it….
I remember first learning tonality aka Rosetta stone from Nathan when I assisted him onbootcamp but shit this put bt, Rosetta and opening In such a simple form that there really isn’t anything else you need to structure any interaction including dates on nthe second day to Tim,s spin and in move in clubs.

I read is yesterday and it worked well today while all this shit was inthebback of my head. Opening after giving a hug i felt like it wasnt strong enough so i picked her up and started spinning her around. Later on at the bar I just grabbed her and started making out with her because the conversation was slowing down. Ie. MOVE. But I did notice that I couldnt use making out to spike the bt as much after the first time… Which is why I thought ulling back and just vomiting nonsense conversation would amplify MOVE part.

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    Brad Branson

    Yep, whenver you sense it, just MOVE. FOr no reason whatsoever, it solidifies the attraction, and you can keep the interaction moving forward.

    The spinning plates concept is fairly new, but I agree, it should be a part of every instructors curriculum. ;)

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Israel

Well thanks, I’ll try this system out. I don’t talk to girls too much but when I do it usually goes somewhere, anyway thanks for the website. By the way, can you give me like a quick topic to talk about? Im sorta out of material.

~Israel

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